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Ground Crew B17F-40-BO "F.D.R.'s Potato Peeler Kids" Serial 42-5243

B-17F-40-BO "FDR's Potato Peeler Kids" N°42-5243 359BS (BN-P)

Boeing B-17


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COMBAT CHRONOLOGY OF THE US ARMY AIR FORCES

FRIDAY, 14 MAY 1943

EUROPEAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS (Eighth Air Force)

Number 56 :

A maximum force is put in the air as part of a combined offensive against the Wehrmacht.
154 B-17's, 21 B-24's and 12 B-26's are dispatched against 4 targets.

The principal attack is against submarine yards and naval installations at Kiel, Germany; 136 B-17's and 21 B-24's are dispatched with 126 B-17's and 17 B-24's hitting the target at 1200-1203 hours local. We claim 62-24-27 Luftwaffe aircraft; we lose 5 B-24's and 3 B-17's with 1 B-24 damaged beyond repair and 9 B-24's and 27 B-17's damaged. Casualties are 3 KIA, 17 WIA and 81 MIA.

42 B-17's are dispatched against
the former Ford and General Motors plants at Antwerp, Belgium; 38 hit the target at 1320 hours local; we claim 5-1-4 Luftwaffe aircraft; we lose 1 and 15 others and damaged; casualties are 3 WIA and 10 MIA ;

in the third raid, 39 B-17's are dispatched
against Courtrai Airfield, France; 34 hit the target; we claim 0-0-1 Luftwaffe aircraft; we lose 2 B-17's and 10 others are damaged; casualties are 20 MIA.

In the 4th raid, 12 B-26's are dispatched against the Velsen power station at Ijmuiden, The Netherlands; 11 hit the target at 1100 hours; 1 B-26 is damaged beyond repair when it crashes upon returning to base and 9 others are damaged; casualties are 1 KIA and 7 MIA.
This is first time more than 200 US bombers are dispatched. The attack at Ijmuiden is made at low level by the 322d Bombardment Group (Medium), the first US medium bomber group to become operational in the UK.

The Antwerp mission is escorted by 118 P-47's; they claim 4-6-11 Luftwaffe aircraft; we lose 3 P-47's and 1 is damaged; casualties are 3 MIA.


3 B-17 declared lost on May 14, 1943 (short list) :
Source : Book "The B-17 Flying Fortress Story"

serial number

 plane name

squadron

code

 date lost

reason

mission lost on

pilot 

41-24481

Boeing B-17F-10-BO "Hell's Angels"

91 BG
322 BS

LG-M

May 14, 1943

?

Kiel
Crash Location : Nord Sea near Amrum Island
(30km NW > Husum)

Broley,
10KIA
.
MACR 15498

42-30003

Boeing B-17F-80-BO "War Eagle"

92 BG
407 BS

PY-S

May 14, 1943

fighter

Kiel

Crash Location
?
Rendsburg
?
(45km S-SE > Husum)
Last observed circling down under control toward Amrum Island
(30km NW > Husum)
w/one engine out, one stabilizer shot off

1 Lt. Lowell L. Walker P POW
Lt. John C. "Jack" Eder
CP POW
Lester L. Kleuver
N POW
Ernest F. Bean
? POW
Donald E. Hutton
E POW
Everett K. Teaford
R? KIA
M/Sgt. James E. Lane
BT? KIA
S/Sgt. Donald E. Buckland
W? KIA
S/Sgt. Malcolm Culpepper
T KIA
MACR 16055
Source : 303rd Bombardment Group (H) Eighth Air Force Station 107 - Molesworth, England
http://www.303rdbga.com/macr.html + Livre "The B-17 Flying Fortress Story"

serial number

 plane type

squadron

Code

date lost

reason

mission lost on

pilot 

42-5243

B17F-40-BO "F.D.R.'s Potato Peeler Kids"

303 BG
359 BS

BN-P

May 14, 1943

fighter

Kiel

Crash Location
North Sea

Capt Ross C. Bales P
Lt Walter E. Dooley
CP
S/Sgt Raymond K. Winters
E
Link to B17F-40-BO "F.D.R.'s Potato Peeler Kids" Serial 42-5243
Sgt Jack D. Snell
TG
S/Sgt Raymond H. Kilgore
R
10 KIA
MACR 15593

The planes which are a part of this short list are those that answer the following criterion:
mission on Kiel and not of fall close to Husum.

What I look for concerning these planes :

41-24481
 The exact crash location of the plane  
 German documents concerning Knoke's victory or falling point  
  The contents of the MACR 15498  

42-30003
 The exact crash location of the plane  
 The contents of the MACR 16055  
Testimonies of the crew  

42-5243
 The exact crash location of the plane  
 The contents of the MACR 15593  

? 5 B-24 ?
According to the message below 5 B-24 would have been lost during this mission on Kiel. I found only 4... The interest of B-24 is to be able to analyze their falling point. At this moment B-17 and B-24 was all nicknamed "Fortresses" or "Viermots" by german pilots. There is maybe possible confusion.  
   How many other victories were claimed by German pilots in this sector this day ? Which is the detail of it ?  


Description of this victory by Heinz Knoke and different information :

Crash Location : near HUSUM

Point de chute

Heinz Knoke Informations

Personal comments

 Source
 I flew for the f... page 98

 Date
 May 14, 1943

Type of claimed plane
 B-17 Flight Fortress

 Place of the interception
 Beginning of attack over Holstein 30.000 feet

 Crash Location
 Near Husum

Square ST-7

Presumed Mission USAAF
 Bombing Kiel

Presumed route USAAF  
 On way home after bombing Kiel

 Schedule
Fortress crash near Husum at 12.17

 Weather report

Knoke's Unit
 
II./JG11 5./JG11
All Bf 109G are slung with a 500-lb. high-explosive bomb equiped with a fifteen-second time fuse.

 Description of the fight
 "I attempt another frontal attack. My first salvo registers right in the control cabin of a Fortress. It rears up, like a great animal that has been mortally wounded, and drops away in steep spirals to the right. At approximately 10000 feet . It crashes near Husum at 12.17."
Probably both pilots were killed...

 Detail 1
 "...a wing breaks off."

A sure victory.

 Detail 2
Knoke mention that Sergeants Fürhmann, Fest and Biermann shot down three other Fortress by bombing . The fifth victory of 5./JG11 was claimed by Sergeant Wenneckers.

 Detail 3
Knoke didn't mention parachutes.
Probably no survivor.


Luftwaffe' Official Victories on May 14, 1943.

Source : Jagdgeschwader 1 und 11 Tail 1 1939 - 1943 Jochen Prien, Peter Rodeike.
Rank / Pilot
Unit
Plane
Schedule
Olt. Grosser
2./JG11
B-17
Hptm. Specht
II./JG11
B-24
Lt. Kilian
II./JG11
B-24
Olt. Sommer
4./JG11
B-24
Lt. Knoke
5./JG11
B-17
12h17
Fw. Wennekers
5./JG11
B-17
Hptm. Falkensamer
6./JG11
B-17
Lt. Hondt
6./JG11
B-17
Olt. Strobl
I./JG11
B-17

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